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	<title>Comments on: ESV translation chair to work on NIV update</title>
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		<title>By: Bill Mounce &#124; Bible Monkey</title>
		<link>http://www.gentlewisdom.org.uk/?p=1465#comment-342253</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Mounce &#124; Bible Monkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 23:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Gentle Wisdom, New Leaven &amp; billmounce.com)    This entry was posted in Bible and tagged Bible, Bible [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Gentle Wisdom&#187; Blog Archive &#187; Mounce Misunderstands &#8220;Man&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://www.gentlewisdom.org.uk/?p=1465#comment-340976</link>
		<dc:creator>Gentle Wisdom&#187; Blog Archive &#187; Mounce Misunderstands &#8220;Man&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to the ESV translation, and a regular contributor to the Koinonia blog. It is good that, as I announced last month, he has joined the Committee on Bible Translation which is currently revising the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to the ESV translation, and a regular contributor to the Koinonia blog. It is good that, as I announced last month, he has joined the Committee on Bible Translation which is currently revising the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Mounce &#171; Aberration blog</title>
		<link>http://www.gentlewisdom.org.uk/?p=1465#comment-340845</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Mounce &#171; Aberration blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Gentle Wisdom, New Leaven &amp; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kevin Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.gentlewisdom.org.uk/?p=1465#comment-340843</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stirling, a strong herd is right. It may change Mounce but he will have some influence on the 2011NIV too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stirling, a strong herd is right. It may change Mounce but he will have some influence on the 2011NIV too.</p>
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		<title>By: c. stirling bartholomew</title>
		<link>http://www.gentlewisdom.org.uk/?p=1465#comment-340839</link>
		<dc:creator>c. stirling bartholomew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The question is, will his presence on the Committee change the committee or will it change him? I suspect the latter. There is strong herd mentality in academia. Read Hemingway\&#039;s Death in the Afternoon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question is, will his presence on the Committee change the committee or will it change him? I suspect the latter. There is strong herd mentality in academia. Read Hemingway\&#8217;s Death in the Afternoon.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kirk</title>
		<link>http://www.gentlewisdom.org.uk/?p=1465#comment-340838</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sue, I am concerned about verses like James 3:1. But I hope Mounce might be persuaded by the counter argument that if &quot;sisters&quot; is deleted here readers might take it that it&#039;s OK for sisters to presume to be teachers. Actually I have concerns about how TNIV added &quot;presume&quot; here, making the verse very like 1 Timothy 2:12.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sue, I am concerned about verses like James 3:1. But I hope Mounce might be persuaded by the counter argument that if &#8220;sisters&#8221; is deleted here readers might take it that it&#8217;s OK for sisters to presume to be teachers. Actually I have concerns about how TNIV added &#8220;presume&#8221; here, making the verse very like 1 Timothy 2:12.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
		<link>http://www.gentlewisdom.org.uk/?p=1465#comment-340837</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mounce writes,

&quot;We will continue to have debates on verses like James 3:1 — &quot;Not many of you should presume to be teachers, my brothers and sisters [Greek, adelphoi], because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly&quot; (TNIV), a translation that removes from debate the question of women teaching.&quot;

He clearly does not want a Bible that suggests that women can be teachers. For Mounce, as for many others, women must be restricted and treated as a special sub class of human beings.</description>
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<p>&#8220;We will continue to have debates on verses like James 3:1 — &#8220;Not many of you should presume to be teachers, my brothers and sisters [Greek, adelphoi], because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly&#8221; (TNIV), a translation that removes from debate the question of women teaching.&#8221;</p>
<p>He clearly does not want a Bible that suggests that women can be teachers. For Mounce, as for many others, women must be restricted and treated as a special sub class of human beings.</p>
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		<title>By: TC Robinson</title>
		<link>http://www.gentlewisdom.org.uk/?p=1465#comment-340836</link>
		<dc:creator>TC Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Peter, Brian expresses concern too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Peter, Brian expresses concern too.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Mounce will do work on the 2011 NIV &#171; συνεσταύρωμαι: living the crucified life</title>
		<link>http://www.gentlewisdom.org.uk/?p=1465#comment-340835</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Mounce will do work on the 2011 NIV &#171; συνεσταύρωμαι: living the crucified life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.gentlewisdom.org.uk/?p=1465#comment-340834</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 22:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am with tim.   I hesitate to be too optimistic.  But I suppose he is a better choice than some others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am with tim.   I hesitate to be too optimistic.  But I suppose he is a better choice than some others.</p>
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